Rowena Dillard
Transcript
Lauren Parker: [00:00] So today is May 10th. My name is Lauren Parker.
Victoria Bittrick: My name is Victoria Bittrick. And would you also say…
Rowena Dillard: Rowena Dillard.
Lauren Parker: Actually, would you mind spelling your full name? That's always helpful too.
Rowena Dillard: R-O-W-E-N-A. Rowena Dillard. D-I-L-L-A-R-D.
Lauren Parker : Rowena's also a beautiful name by the way.
Rowena Dillard: [00:22] That name is so ugly.
Lauren Parker : No! I like the way it flows. Is there any other introductory information that you'd like to share just to get started with? And then we can jump into talking about your school experience.
Rowena Dillard: You know, I didn't grow up or live down here. I moved here from Madison. I met my husband, which will be married eight years on Tuesday. And that's when I moved to Esmont.
Lauren Parker : Congratulations!
Rowena Dillard: Thank you.
Rowena Dillard: [00:51] Yes.
Lauren Parker : And what year was that?
Rowena Dillard: That was 2017. Okay. Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker : Yeah, so.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker : Yeah. So where did you go to school? Presumably you go to Madison County.
Rowena Dillard: I went to Madison County. Yes.
Lauren Parker : Yeah. And what was your elementary school called? Maybe we'll start there.
Rowena Dillard: [01:08] My elementary school was Ann Wingfield in Culpepper. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh.
Lauren Parker : Yeah. And do you remember, yeah, I know this is, I don't know that I would be able to answer this question if I were on the other side.Do you remember your first day of school or does anything stand out to you about, like, like, process?
Rowena Dillard: I can remember my first day of school. My first day of school, my teacher's name was Miss Holland.
Lauren Parker: [01:27] Mm-hmm.
Rowena Dillard: And, um, it was, you know, going to school for the first time was kind of iffy and I was shy and stuff anyway. But I made it through it. And actually, I got, um, skipped to the third grade. I went from first to third.
Lauren Parker: [01:43] Well, I got to hear more about that. Yeah. How did, how did you, well, okay, we'll start first of all. How did that process go of, like, skipping to the third grade? Was it like?
Rowena Dillard: Because I had, I was advanced for my age. Yeah. And being taught some stuff at home, you know, I was like, I was taught what you're supposed to know in the first grade, most of it. And then I was so advanced, they said they didn't see any reason why I needed to go to second. They just, put me in the third grade.
Lauren Parker : [02:11] Yeah. Well, how did you like, like, skipping to the third grade?
Rowena Dillard: I was fine with it.
Lauren Parker : Yeah?
Rowena Dillard: I was fine with it. Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. Well, what else, did you like elementary school? Did you like your first grade?
Rowena Dillard: I loved elementary school. I didn't like high school, but I liked elementary school.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. And so, what did a typical school day look for you? I guess we'll say specifically in elementary school, whichever grade, you know, you want to do. But, like, yeah, what were your favorite things to do?
Rowena Dillard: Um, art. Home ec. And in the lower grades, it was art. I liked art a lot, too, when I was in the elementary. Yeah. That was my main ones.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. What did you like about art in home ec?
Rowena Dillard: [02:53] Because I got to draw, and then I could draw things that I had on my mind and, you know, what I felt. And home ec was I was being taught to cook when I got older when I got married.
Lauren Parker: [03:07] Mh-mmm.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [03:08] Yeah, I also loved art when I was in school. Do you still paint or draw and things like that?
Rowena Dillard: I do. I do sometimes, yeah.
Lauren Parker: [03:15] And is that something that you kept, you continued to take in middle school and high school as well?
Rowena Dillard: All the way, yes, I did.
Lauren Parker : Yeah.Do you have any memories from, like, art class or home ec? Any projects?
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Rowena Dillard: [03:27] I have one memory from home ec.They were teaching me how to sew on a sewing machine, and the sewing machine needle went through my finger.
Lauren Parker: Oh, my God.
Rowena Dillard: [03:38] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: I would remember that too.
Rowena Dillard: [03:40] I remember that.
Lauren Parker : Oh, my God.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [03:42] Yeah, what happened? Did you?
Rowena Dillard: [03:44] Just that the teacher had to come over and ease it because it went through. I'm pretty sure it was this finger because I was holding the thread like this, pushing it through, and I got too close to the needle, and the needle went down.
[03:56] But she came over and she eased the, took the pedal and raised the needle up real slow and got it out.
Lauren Parker: Okay, well, that's good. I don't know why I was thinking, like, you have to go to the hospital or something like that.
Rowena Dillard: [04:07] No, no.
Lauren Parker : Yeah. All right. Well, yeah, so there was, I don't know, was there home ec when you were in school?
Victoria Bittrick: [04:14] Not for me.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. So I'm kind of curious, like...
Rowena Dillard: [04:17] What did we do?
Lauren Parker: Yeah, like, what did you do? Or what was there?
Rowena Dillard: [04:20] So you sewed, of course, but cooking. We actually cooked. We made cakes. We made… She taught us for certain, I can't remember what they were, but main course meals that we did in home ec.
[04:31] And then sewing, we had to do the patterns and cut out the material and make whatever it was that we were making.
Lauren Parker: [04:41] Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker : And so are those skills that you feel like you still use today, of course, with cooking?
Rowena Dillard: [04:47] Yeah.Cooking is my favorite hobby now. It is.
Lauren Parker : What do you like to cook?
Rowena Dillard: Everything. My favorite is spaghetti, fried chicken, macaroni and cheese, and potato salad, everything. Cabbage, everything.
Lauren Parker: [05:04] Oh, I love cabbage.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah. I do, too.
Lauren Parker: [05:07] I don't know. It is my favorite vegetable, but...
Rowena Dillard: Okay.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. I guess moving away, a little bit away from school for now, but...So who do you cook for now? Like, do you... Of course, you're married. Like, do you still have children that live at home, but...
Rowena Dillard: [05:19] No, my children are grown on their own. Just me and my husband.
Lauren Parker: [05:23] Okay.
Rowena Dillard: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [05:26] All right. Well, I guess going back to school then...
Rowena Dillard: Okay.
Lauren Parker: Did you play any sports or participate in fan, choir, any clubs?
Rowena Dillard: [05:34] In high school, I played basketball. I did shot put. I ran track, and all. Any of them things now? No.
Lauren Parker : Yeah. How did you get into… I know you mentioned some, like, track and shot put, but there were other things. But how did you get into each of those activities?
Rowena Dillard: [05:54] I actually went from gym class. You know, they recommended me through gym. Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: [06:01] So they were like, hey, I think you would be...
Rowena Dillard: Yeah, a good candidate.
Lauren Parker : Really good.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [06:05] Yeah. I feel like maybe that's common for track. Like, with your mile time, they were like, we need a girl. You got to… We need you on the team.
Rowena Dillard: [06:12] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. Well, were there any memories of, like, a particular race or, like, just a moment with your teammates or something from, like, sports or any of the other activities?
Rowena Dillard: [06:21] Not that I can remember. No.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: [06:25] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Well, I guess generally in school then, what was it like kind of socially? Like, are there any friends that you still have to this day?
Rowena Dillard: [06:32] I didn't talk to very many people.
Lauren Parker: Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: I think I was introverted to myself.
Lauren Parker: [06:38] Mm-hmm.
Rowena Dillard: Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker : Okay.
Rowena Dillard: [06:40] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. So mostly, like, shyer.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [06:43] Yeah. Focusing on school and sports, which, you know...
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [06:48] Well, I guess I'm just kind of curious now. So when did you meet your husband or where?
Rowena Dillard: Oh.
Lauren Parker: [06:52] Can you tell us the story of how y'all met?
Rowena Dillard: Oh, yeah.
Lauren Parker: And you've been together eight years now, so...
Rowena Dillard: [06:56] No, we've been together long already.
Lauren Parker : Or married for eight years, I'm sorry.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah. Let me tell you the story.
Lauren Parker: [07:01] Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Okay, I was living in Madison, just grown.
Lauren Parker: [07:04] Mm-hmm.
Rowena Dillard: And I had gotten a job at, what was it called? Eldercare then.
Lauren Parker: [07:09] Okay.
Rowena Dillard: And he and I worked in the same, you know, doing dietary trades. And he got on my nerve. He got cursed out every day because he kept trying to talk to me.
[07:20] And I kept telling him, no, I don't want to have nothing to do with you. I don't know. So after that, I moved to Philadelphia. I was up there for 12 years. I came back to Charlottesville. And I was at, I don't know if you know anything about it. They call it the Elks.
Lauren Parker: [07:41] Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Okay.
Lauren Parker: [07:42] I know a little bit.
Rowena Dillard: Okay.
Lauren Parker : Let me not act, you know, too. Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: [07:45] Yeah. Okay. I was at the Elks. And I heard somebody calling me. Ro! Ro! Ro! I turned around. There was him sitting behind me. So we had a good time that night, you know, dancing and stuff.
[07:59] He went this way. I went my way. And about, then I moved to Charlottesville a year later. And I don't know. He, I saw him in a store or something. And we exchanged numbers and stuff.
[08:16] We went together for a little while. It didn't work. Got rid of him again. And then we ran into, oh, let me back up. When we was working at elder care, he says- I don't remember-He said, I told you we're going to be together and be married one day. And I don't remember that.
[08:34] But anyway, we tried it three times when I lived in Charlottesville. So the last time I just said, maybe marriage would change him. So that's when we got married in 2017. And it did change him.
Lauren Parker: [08:50] Yeah. That's good. That's such a cute story, I think. Like, that could be a movie, you know. And just for my own curiosity, my family's from Philly. And so I'm wondering, like, what you were doing there. Like, where did you live?
Rowena Dillard: [09:02] I lived in the Northeast.
Lauren Parker: Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: [09:08] Cotman and Ryan Avenue. I lived on Mechanic Street. I lived in Germantown.
Lauren Parker: [09:15] That's where my family's from.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah, Mount Airy, Germantown.
Rowena Dillard: [09:18] Yeah. And I was living on Worcester and Wakefield.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: [09:22] Which, it's right there. Yeah, off of Germantown Avenue.
Lauren Parker: Okay. Well, yeah. Well, did you mention what you were doing in Philadelphia for those years after you worked in elder care?
Rowena Dillard: [09:34] I had a, my kids- My first husband was crazy. So I just left everything and went to another state. I didn't know anybody or anything. But I miss it.
Lauren Parker: [09:47] Yeah, I was going to ask, how did, did you like it there?
Rowena Dillard: I loved it. I loved it.
Lauren Parker: [09:52] What was your favorite part of living in Philly? And was there a particular, like, place or even house that you liked the most?
Rowena Dillard: [10:00] No, not a particular house or anything. But it's just that, like here, well, I'm in the country. I'm in Esmont. I don't even know if you know where that is. There's nothing there.
Lauren Parker: [10:11] Philadelphia, if you get up, you want to get up and go to the store, you don't have something there. Least the stores and stuff open all night. I like that.
[10:19] And then I loved that you could walk to the, you know, different stores and stuff. It was nice. Very nice. And I worked up there, too, as a CNA. I loved that. Yes. Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [10:31] And so what do you do for work now here?
Rowena Dillard: CNA.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: [10:34] Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: So how did you get into CNA work? Is that something that you'd wanted to do for a long time? Have you had other careers?
Rowena Dillard: [10:42] Well, it was, I went through this program in Orange. I lived in Orange, too. I've lived in a lot of places.But they had this, social service had this, like this, they had a thing called job, what is it, job, something, seek and keep.
Lauren Parker: [11:07] Oh, okay.
Rowena Dillard: So they had different courses that they would pay for for you to go through. And I went through the nursing course, pregnant with my last daughter. Yeah. And I just went on from there.
Lauren Parker: [11:21] Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [11:23] That's really good. So you mentioned living in a couple other places. Are there any other places that you'd lived that, you know?
Rowena Dillard: [11:30] No.
Lauren Parker : Noteworthy? So like Madison, Orange, Charlottesville. I mean, that's a lot of places.
Rowena Dillard: [11:34] Yeah. It is.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. And so you also talked a little bit about kind of that like rural, like urban kind of difference.
Rowena Dillard: [11:42] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: I don't know. I'm assuming Madison, you know, more of a rural area. And then you went back to the city and then came back.
Rowena Dillard: [11:47] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: What was that transition like?
Rowena Dillard: It was terrible. It is terrible. I don't like it down where I am at all. Nothing but woods and bears. Yeah. We have a lot of bears out there in Chestnut Grove where I live at.
Lauren Parker: [12:03] You know, someone else, I feel like in another oral history they talked about like bears. Maybe this was Waltine.
Rowena Dillard: [12:10] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: So there's a lot of critters out in Chestnut Grove specifically?
Rowena Dillard: [12:14] Yes. It is. Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: [12:18] Yeah. So is it, so maybe I'm thinking now about what life in Esmont compares to growing up in Madison or even in like Orange.
Rowena Dillard: [12:27] It's actually about the same.
Lauren Parker: About the same?
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: Madison and Esmont is about the same. Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: [12:33] Yeah. And so I know you talked about children. So do you- and you don't have children that live with you now. Yeah, I guess, where do your children live now? Like do you talk to them? Do you see them a lot?
Rowena Dillard: [12:47] One of them is in Madison.
Lauren Parker: Oh, okay.
Rowena Dillard: My son is in Madison and my daughter is in Charlottesville. She's in Charlottesville.
Lauren Parker: [12:54] Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: She has six children. He has four. Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: [13:00] So they still stayed in the area of Virginia.
Rowena Dillard: Yes, they are.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. Is it nice to kind of have, you know, family close?
Rowena Dillard: [13:06] Yes, it is. Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: [13:09] Yeah. How often do you see them?
Rowena Dillard: At least once a week.
Lauren Parker : Oh, that's good.
Rowena Dillard: [13:16] Yeah.
Lauren Parker : Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: At least once a week. And all the grandbabies. Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: [13:21] Yeah. So you mentioned, I guess that's 10 grandchildren.
Rowena Dillard: Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: [13:24] Yeah. Do you have any memories of like, yeah, of things that you guys have done as like, you know, a large extended family, maybe like family reunions, things like that?
Rowena Dillard: Mmmm. No.
Lauren Parker : Things like that.
Rowena Dillard: [13:35] We didn't have anything like that. Baby showers.
Lauren Parker : Oh, yeah. That counts.
Rowena Dillard: Baby showers. Yeah. Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [13:41] Any memorable baby showers or anything like that?
Rowena Dillard: I've only been to one. That's my second oldest.
Lauren Parker: [13:46] That's okay. 10 would be a lot.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: It'd be expensive too.
Rowena Dillard: [13:48] I know! Yeah. Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: But it's only been to one, one of my granddaughters.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: [13:54] My second oldest.
Lauren Parker: Mm-hmm.
Rowena Dillard: Mm-hmm. That was really nice. Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [13:58] Yeah, I'm sure.
Rowena Dillard: Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: Okay. Well, yeah.
Rowena Dillard: There's.Nothing like it.
Lauren Parker: [14:03] Plenty of things I could ask, but it was there. I know you originally talked about school being one.
Rowena Dillard: Mm-hmm.
Lauren Parker: [14:07] So we haven't done all the questions there, but were there any other slides that, or slides, cards that had questions that you thought might be interesting or.
Rowena Dillard: No. Well. No, but I don’t know.
Lauren Parker: [14:20] And now I got to flip through them too, but. We talked about family, right?
Rowena Dillard: [14:26] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: I always end up jumping around, I think.
Rowena Dillard: Well, go ahead. Just go around. Oh, yeah. Yeah, go ahead.
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Lauren Parker: [14:31] Yeah. Well, I always like, I think the question of like maybe how Virginia has changed would be a good one, especially since you left for, you know, an extended period and came back. But what are some of the changes that you see in some of the places that you've lived in Virginia, like since you've. Like since you've come back.
Rowena Dillard: [14:49] Hmm. Well, it's a difference in, in Chestnut Grove.
Lauren Parker: [14:56] Okay.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah. It is.
Lauren Parker: Tell me more about that.
Rowena Dillard: [15:00] Um, I don't like it.
Lauren Parker: Right.
Rowena Dillard: It's a, where I live there is family all, oops, family all around me.
Lauren Parker: [15:09] Mm-hmm.
Rowena Dillard: There's nothing wrong with that, but some of it, you know, some of it not right.
Lauren Parker: [15:15] Mmm. What do you mean?
Rowena Dillard: They, the families are not, I've, I've never seen anything like I've seen in Chestnut Grove.
Lauren Parker: Mm-hmm.
Rowena Dillard: [15:25] I lived in, like I said, I lived a lot of places.
Lauren Parker: Right.
Rowena Dillard: I haven't seen anything like Chestnut Grove. I, I don't even know how to explain it.
Lauren Parker: [15:36] Yeah, just in terms of, like, the tethering of, because you mentioned, like, a lot of, like, related families living together, like, kind of the in-ment.
Rowena Dillard: There's a lot of friends, though. Drinking and drugging and all that. I stay in the house to myself.
Lauren Parker: [15:52] Okay, I see.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker : Yeah, so what keeps you in Chestnut Grove? Is there any other places-
Rowena Dillard: My husband.
Lauren Parker: Does he work in the area?
Rowena Dillard: [16:00] He works in Charlottesville. He works at Mickey Tavern.
Lauren Parker: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [16:05] I've never been there, but I always drive past it, and then, you know, it's so big. But how long has he been working at Mickey?
Rowena Dillard: 20 years.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: [16:15] He loves it. Yeah.
Lauren Parker: And so that kind of, so you have that kind of tie to the area?
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: [16:21] Yeah. If I had my choice, I wouldn't be out here. No, No. That's what I'm saying. See, that, too.
Lauren Parker: [16:32] Is this part of it?
Rowena Dillard: That's part of it, too.
Lauren Parker: [16:35] Yeah. So have you, so since you've been living in Chestnut Grove, have you lived in the same home? Are there other, like, places?
Rowena Dillard: [16:44] No, I moved. I moved. I lived down the road a little ways in the trailer. I lived there for, that's where we went when we got married.
Lauren Parker: Mm-hmm.
Rowena Dillard: [16:54] So then, 2024, we moved into the home that we're in now because the guy that we were seeing at the trailer, he wanted his property back.
Lauren Parker: Mm-hmm.
Rowena Dillard: [17:06] So, yeah.
Lauren Parker: So pretty recent.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [17:10] Okay.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
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Lauren Parker: [17:12] Well, I guess maybe this is a good question. Is there anything in particular that you miss about some of the other places that you live? And you talked a little bit about Philadelphia, like, the walk of the, the having places that stayed open past.
Rowena Dillard: [17:25] Places that you could actually do something.
Lauren Parker: Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [17:28] But are there, is there anything else that you kind of just miss about?
Rowena Dillard: My friends. I had good friends up there.
Lauren Parker: Yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [17:35] Well, maybe let's talk about, like, friends and those kinds of relationships. Are there people from, well, you mentioned being, like, more introverted in, in, you know.
Rowena Dillard: Madison.
Lauren Parker : Yeah. In Madison, in school. But from, you know, some of the other, like, jobs and trainings that you have, are there any friends that have, you know, you've stayed in contact with?
Rowena Dillard: [17:55] No.
Lauren Parker : Anybody come to see now?
Rowena Dillard: No. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. No.
Lauren Parker: [18:00] Okay. I'm wondering, so. Oh. Okay. That's a good question. So, you've talked a little bit about, like, I know you, you went to the Elks and, um, seems like you like to dance, you know, to have fun. You like the nightlife.
Rowena Dillard: [18:24] Yeah.
Lauren Parker: So, yeah. Is there any, so what kind of music do you like listening to? Or did you like listening to?
Rowena Dillard: R&B and jazz and gospel. Those are the main three.
Lauren Parker: [18:43] Yeah. Are there any like concerts, memorable concerts or artists that you've seen live?
Rowena Dillard: I went to a concert about three years ago in North Carolina and there was a lot of people like, let's see, I don't know if you know him or not, Sir Charles was there. King George was there. Calvin Richardson was there. I love Calvin Richardson. It was a good concert. That was about three years ago. Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Any other artists that you really like, even if you haven't seen them live?
Rowena Dillard: I haven't seen. That was my first concert.
Lauren Parker : Oh yeah.
Rowena Dillard: Yes. First. I was so excited.
Lauren Parker: [19:32] Yeah. Well, this is something, this isn't a question that's on the paper, but I got to thinking that this would be a good question to ask after the last oral history, but COVID, it feels like something that like has kind of, that.
Rowena Dillard: That's actually keeping people away from people.
Lauren Parker: [19:49] Or yeah. I mean, I'm just wondering what, I don't even know where, where you were living in COVID and how do you feel like that affected, you know, your life in general?
Rowena Dillard: Yeah. Because we couldn't do anything. It was, you know, depressing.
Lauren Parker: [20:01] And you were living here?
Rowena Dillard: I was living here.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. Were you still, so I know you said you're a CNA. Were you still working during COVID?
Rowena Dillard: Yeah, I was still working.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. What was that like being in the medical field then?
Rowena Dillard: [20:11] But you see, I only do one patient. I do in-home, but it was, it was okay. Yeah. It was okay.
Lauren Parker: Okay.
Rowena Dillard: Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [20:26] Well, yeah. So, so we're here at Yancey for the field day. Are there any other, is this, is Yancey a place that you kind of come to a lot? Because I know you live in Chestnut Grove, which isn't too far.
Rowena Dillard: Right.
Lauren Parker: [20:38] I’m wondering what, yeah, what Yancey has like meant to you, if that makes sense, or what role does it play in your life?
Rowena Dillard: [20:45] I've been trying to get into the senior program. Yeah. But you have, I think it's on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and I can't get here because he's working. Yeah.
Lauren Parker: [21:01] So he's got the car and it's hard to get out.
Rowena Dillard: He's got the car. Yeah.
Lauren Parker: Yeah. But do you, but do you still come out to events like, like this field day and things like that and some of the other events?
Rowena Dillard: Yeah. Some of them. Yeah.
Lauren Parker : Okay. Well, yeah. Well, is there anything that, um, we just set a 20 minute timer, you know, for the oral histories, but is there anything else that we didn't talk about or any questions on here that you saw and were like, Ooh, I really want to talk about that one.
Rowena Dillard: No.
Lauren Parker : All right. Well, I hope this was, you know, like a fun conversation for you.
Rowena Dillard: It was fine. Yeah.
Lauren Parker : Thank you so much for speaking with us.